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Re: Environmental Call to Arms (salmon)



Patrick, If what you, with your usual slant, choose to call my "tirade"
makes you no wiser that is not due to a lack in my message. You are a paid
propogandist, you are paid to twist and slant and pretend to see and hear
what your masters tell you to see and hear.
I find it very interesting that you claim to be in touch with
Maxxam/Pacific Lumber. You two talk the same language. When Maxxam/PL was
charged with over 250 violations of the Forest Practice Rules their CEO,
John Campbell, in the local paper (Times Standard, 12/26/98) blamed
activists for the companies woes. Did "activists" destroy 5 watersheds,
fail to install culverts, clearcut an area that was only supposed to be
thinned, cause a slide by failing to remove unstable soil on a landing,
overharvest and understock, constantly fail to install waterbreaks and on
and on? These are only a handful of the charges that caused Maxxam/PL to
have the Timber Operators license pulled last December in what was called
by CDF "...a next to last resort, when there are repeated, deliberate
violations, and there seems to be no other way to obtain compliance."
Whatever Maxxam/PL has to say to you is, based on their past track record
of evasion and lies, not worth the space it takes up. There is very good
reason why whole neighborhoods in Humboldt County are suing Maxxam.
You are quite correct about my "lack of respect" for you. You are, quite
transparently, a paid apologist, a flunky. Is there some reason to respect
that? But, believe me, Maxxam/PL doesn't need you to do cover stories for
them. They are experts at it. They have a hired mouthpiece, Mary
Bullwinkle. And, they are certainly monitoring this list.
As for your request that I "exchange information and opinions in as polite
a manner as possible" the key words there are "as possible". It is not
possible to be "polite" about what Maxxam is doing to this county in the
name of grab and greed, what they are doing is not "polite". As for
"exchange", that is not what you do is it? Why don't you ever admit what
your job is? Why this constant pretense that you are just another list
member in pursuit of information?

>Gee, Sylvia, all I did was ask a question. Your tirade makes me no wiser. I
>was told by Pacific Lumber that they use selection harvesting. I have now
>asked them to verify this or explain otherwise. Your lack of respect for
>people who have a different approach to these issues, and whom you have
>never met,  is not very civil. Please tone down the personal insults and try
>to exchange information and opinions in as polite a manner as possible.
>
>Cheers
>
>Patrick Moore, Greenspirit
>http://www.greenspirit.com
>May the Forest be With You
>
>Snail Mail:
>4068 West 32nd Avenue
>Vancouver, B.C. V6S 1Z6
>Canada



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