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Re: Artificial vs Natural



Two books are pertinent to this debate.

Simon Shama (Oxford Historian) wrote "Landscape and Nature" looking at
the historical connection between the species Homo sapiens and the
landscape of the world - such that "natural", in the sense of not
influenced by man, is a nonsense.

Stephen Budianski wrote "Nature's Keepers" with a similar theme though
more ecologically applied.

Chris Perley

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Jim Stewart [SMTP:stewart@aec.arc.ab.ca]
        Sent:   Thursday, 2 April 1998 08:52
        To:     Multiple recipients of list FOREST
        Subject:        Artificial vs Natural

        Dear Forest-listers,
        Brooks' response to the current thread prompted me to recall an
experience
        relating to the issue.

        I attended two talks last week that addressed this issue of
artificial vs
        natural.  The first was given by George Weyerhaeuser Jr, CEO of
        Weyerhaeuser Canada, one of the largest forest companies in
Canada.  The
        following night I listened to Matthew Fox, former Dominican
monk, and the
        foremost exponent of Creation Spirituality, a global ecumenical
movement
        that challenges the status quo in theology and secular issues.
Although
        they probably approached the question from very different
philosophical
        stances, both speakers made the same point, humankind is a part
of nature,
        not a separate thing external to the creation in which we live.

        Maintaining the dualism in the natural vs artificial concept has
negative
        effects in many ways.  First, by distinguishing our selves as
separate from
        nature, it is easy to abdicate responsibility for what we do,
and its
        effect on other parts of nature.  This has certainly been the
tradition of
        European culture in Americas.  A second fallacy that arises from
this
        dualistic outlook is the idea that if we just leave it alone
nature will
        look after itself.  The fallacy is that, being an intrinsic part
of nature,
        we can never separate ourselves from nature, and we always have
an impact.
        Just by being, we are taking part in ecosystem processes, from
local to
        global scales.  It is my contention that, by acknowledging our
real
        relations with other parts of the creation, we will have to
acknowledge our
        responsibility to manage ourselves appropriately.  If we do not
"do our
        best with what we have where we are", we are managing by
default, and the
        default might not have pleasant results.

        Thank you to all those contributing to this thread.  It is good
for all of
        us who practise, teach and do research in forestry to step
outside our
        usual sphere of work, and examine the larger context of what we
do, both
        personally and in community.  I have benefited from all of the
different
        perspectives being expressed here.

        DISCLAIMER:  The views expressed in this message are solely my
own, and do
        not necessarily represent the views and policies of my employer.


        At 12:08 1/4/98 -0500, Brooks McCandlish wrote:
        >OK, I will rise to David South's bait...  I never did much like
the terms
        >"artificial" vs "natural" regeneration.
        >
        >I believe that the excessive emphasis on a  distinction
between "natural"
        >vs "artificial" is at the root of our problems of forging a
sustainable
        >society. This emphasis can lead to either an unthinking
preservationist
        >philosophy, or to an equally unthinking faith that technology
can  solve
        >in a timely fashion any problem that we create.
        >
        >I plant a field with seedlings, weed, thin and protect it till
it grows
        >into a forest of valuable timbe, providing a host of
environmental benefits
        >along the way--did I create that forest? Perhaps it wouldn't
have existed
        >without my actions, but I can't really take much credit for the
result.
        >
        >I plant a seed, my wife bears a child, --  did we create a
person? Is the
        >child artificial?
        >
        >For better or worse, there is no forest on earth which has not
been
        >impacted "artificially" by the influence of human activity.
There is also
        >no forest, planted or otherwise, which can truly be said to be
"made" by
        >humans.
        >
        >"Natural" and "artificial" are on a continuum.  All forestry is
        >"artificial"; all involves natural resources, adapted and
modified to a
        >greater or lesser extent by man for his purposes.   We can be
distructive
        >through ignorance or carelessness, maliciously or with the best
intentions.
        >However we are a product of nature, and, by  living, we
necessarily impact
        >the world we depend on for life.   To quote "Mac" McConnell,
former
        >professor of forestry, you do the best you can, with what you
have, where
        >you are.
        >
        >
        >*****************************
        >    Brooks McCandlish
        >    New England Forestry Consultants, Inc.
        >    Bradford, New Hampshire, 03221
        >    USA
        >   (603) 938-5354
        >   brooks@conknet.com
        >*****************************
        >

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        James D. Stewart  Ph.D.
        Research Officer in Ecophysiology and Silviculture
        Forest Resources Business Unit          phone:  (403) 632-8309
        Alberta Research Council                        fax:    (403)
632-8379
        P.O. Bag 4000                                   email:
stewart@aec.arc.ab.ca
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