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Re: IMPORTANT: Forest list policy concerning copyright



At 09:17 AM 01/10/97 +0800, Nelson Wong wrote:

[SNIP]
>>         You can always give a reference to a website and document(URL),
>>         but you may not send full-text copies of such documents, without
>>         prior permission.
>> ##########################################################################
>
>So what else is new? I have seen this notice several times before. You & the
>media can keep your sanitized principles, in your ivory towers, and can still
>be morally wrong! As it was said to Scarlett O'Hara at the end of 'Gone with
>the Wind' - Frankly Ma'am I don't give a damn! You have before you a very
>powerful tool as the Forest List-owner. You can keep your white-washed
>priciples, or you can help change the world (apologies to Steve Job & John
>Scully). The choice is yours!

To the best of my knowledge, the FOREST list is maintained by the listowner
with a finite amount of computing resources, and is set up for a certain
volume of traffic.  If everyone who decides that the rules don't apply to
them decides to ignore the rules by including documents, instead of simply
giving a URL, are we assured that the list will continue to operate?  Most
of us can very easily bring up a web browser to check out any web address
(I've been following the "fires" stories with interest), so there is no need
to clutter up the listserver's system with full-text copies of documents.
Yes, these fires are a disaster, but I want the FOREST list to be around in
the future to inform me of other important issues.  Society needs to agree
on certain rules to function properly, and I think that the listowner's
rules are entirely reasonable.  If Nelson Wong and those who have written in
support of his statements think that the rules are unreasonable (sanitized,
white-washed principles), are they willing to engage in constructive
dialogue about how the system can be changed, or will it be anarchy (frankly
Ma'am I don't give a damn)?

Phil Loseth




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