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Re: More Forests in the News



In reply to Terence Liow who wrote:

> I suspect that New Zealand also has the advantage of higher forest
> productivity (i.e., growth rates) and perhaps a favourable tax regime.

Yes, radiata pine growth rates in New Zealand are higher than growth
rates of coniferous species in  most Northern hemisphere countries.
Obviously there are many factors which help to determine
"profitability", and not least among these are the forestry workers.
My point was that the profitability of New Zealand forestry rests on
a workforce which is highly productive, but low paid by the standards
of the US, Australia, Western Europe, Scandinavia, Japan etc.
Further, the incomes of NZ workers as a whole have been declining in
real terms over recent years.
The point I was responding to was the suggestion that there was
nothing wrong in forestry turning a high rate of profit.    I would
simply add to that the conditions "No provided it is not at an
unreasonable cost to the forestry workforce or the natural
environment"

> The U.K. allowed expensing against income in the '80s which resulted
> in many reforestation/afforestation projects then.  Perhaps New
> Zealand also has favorable tax treatment.

In New Zealand forest establishment costs may be deducted from income
from other sources for tax purposes at the time the costs are
incurred.     The state also funds forestry training and research,
until 1985 (?) met half the cost of all private forest establishment,
and since 1987 has transferred established state forests to mainly
large corporate owners at prices as low as 50% of market value (as
indicated by subsequent on-sales).

> Many pulp and paper companies are divesting their timberlands as the yield
> (often 8%) holds down overall return on investment/market capitalization.
>
Yes, and I think you will see the same thing happening here in New
Zealand before too long.    The present rate of profit is unsustainable.
Capital gains through purchase of state forests and overcutting are one-off benefits.
Contract labour rates have hit rock bottom.
It will be probably 2-3 years before log prices recover from their current low.
Add it all up, and  forestry companies in New Zealand will have to either start
thinking about divestment, or reconcile themselves to 8% rates of return like
your Northern hemisphere forest owners.
Geoff Fischer
628 Te Ngae Road, Rotorua, New Zealand
Phone 64 7 345 3299

Credit for the message above belongs solely to Geoff Fischer.
and not to his employer or internet service provider.




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