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Re: irritating advertisements in area



On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Nelson Wong wrote:

> The Malaysian Timber Council is a well respected organisation in the
> field of tropical timber. And I don't think anyone in this list agrees
> with your rude message. If you think we are advertising, perhaps you
> should read the original message which obviously, you haven't.


Dear Sirs,

I try to keep my flames small and refrain prom personal attacks or
estimating the character of messages. It seems to me that CJ Hulsebosch
has sent a private message to N. Wong because have not seen such a message
on the list. It would be impolite and against the Internet netiquette to
include a private message in a public bulletin board without the consent
of the sender.


> On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Ph.C.J. Hulsebosch wrote:

> > ...
> > The forest list is NOT a place to put advertisements. Please send this
> > kind of messages through private netmail and NOT to the list. This is
> > irritating and OFF TOPIC.

I fully agree with PCJ Hulsebosch here. However, some messages which could
be interpreted as advertisments such as job announcements, conference
announcements, new books in forestry (preferably with a review of the
book), announcements of new services etc. are welcome. Repeated ads or
posts to multiple mailing lists etc. are not welcome.

Nelson Wong of MTC has written to the Forest list 17 times during the
last two months.  Nine of these messages can be read as pure
advertisements of MTC services, three are short requests for statistical
information of other countries and six are replies to inquires from other
subscribers. Unfortunately he has also had a bad habit of answering with
a few lines and then including the **whole** request at the bottom.

I have already privately suggested that MTC should start a private mailing
list to serve those individuals who would be interested in receiving
regular information and announcements from them.

I'm sorry I have to write this publicly. Usually if any flaming is
needed I prefer doing it privately. This message should NOT be understood
as an attack or assault against N.W., MTC, Malaysia or commercial
companies in general, but as a reminder of the purpose of this list.
Everything we have seen is ok, but in ample quantities. This time the
limit seems to be reached. I hope N.W. will bring his wit in the
discussions of the list but rather leave the frequent promotion of his
company services for other forums as this seems to be the request from the
subscribers, too.

Please, when replying consider carefully how personal your reply is.
Should it really be sent to all subscribers around the world? Think of all
the junk mail coming into your mailbox...  If your feelings are aroused by
a message, sleep overnight before replying, your reply will be written in
quite a different tone - I speak from experience.

Send any comments to me privately, thank you.

Peace,

Jarmo Saarikko
the listowner of forest@listserv.funet.fi

DISCLAIMER
The opinions presented in this message are private and do
not necessarily present my employer's point of view.



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