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Re[2]: Evolution, and other contentious issues!



     Well if the issue turned to be philosophical, let us do philosophy.
        Our understanding of any phenomenon necessarily passes through the
     models we conceive and the mechanistic is only one of them. We must
     be aware of that. The Systemic modelling which was developed to
     model biological phenomenons is also a product of human mind. The
     issue here is not that our thinking on nature is too much anthropo-
     centric because anything that comes out of us can only be human-
     made models.
        The real issue is more to be aware of the relative limitations of
     the various models and to try to stay aware of the fact that models
     and reality are always distinct.

        A good reading on the subject (although it is in management science
     and not on evolution) is:

     Morgan Gareth, 1986. Images of Organization. Sage Publications Inc.,
     Beverly Hills, Ca, U.S.A.

     The author is actually professor at York University, Toronto. He
     develops the idea that all the models we develop and use to understand
     the reality have their explanation power and their severe limitations.
     And that often the ability of one to understand reality lies in his
     or her ability to use simultaneously various models even at the cost
     of paradoxical results and that doing that, you only start unders-
     tanding the true complexity of reality and you improve your chances
     to behave correctly (according to human standards obviously). Morgan
     call this process of overlaying several models to the same piece of
     reality and of creating new models to add to the generally available
     models: Imaginization. It gives a better idea of the relativity of
     all this debate. Human brain, capacity of imagination are still all
     we have to think on ourselves and on the world and it is not all that
     bad. Isn't it?

     Robert Beauregard
     NZ Forest Research Institute



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Subject: : Evolution, and other contentious issues!
Author:  Norm Cimon <ncimon@ednet1.osl.or.gov> at tawa
Date:    15/11/95 01:52 PM


Since this has turned philosophical, I'll throw in my own two
cents.  Nothing in nature is "mechanical" if we accept the notion
of evolution.  A mechanical device is implicitly designed for
some purpose, so there has to be a designer.  The most revealing
part of our total absorption with the idea of the machine, an
entirely human creation, is that we apply it so liberally to
every aspect of organic life.  Perhaps this is to be expected,
that we would attempt to explain everything in terms of our own
creations, but there's a lot of baggage that travels along.

--
Shelley Cimon - Oregon Hanford Advisory Board | Tel: (503) 963-0853
Norm Cimon - Forestry & Range Sciences Lab    | Fax: (503) 963-0853

La Grande, Oregon




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