Re: Evolution, and other contentious issues!

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• From: Nelson Wong <nelson@MGATE.MTC.COM.MY>
• Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:05:57 +0800
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An creationist viewpoint:

On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Geoff Fischer wrote:

> A creationist viewpoint:
>
> > On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Bruce Metelerkamp wrote:
> >
> > > How can dominant forces be wrong? Has evolution not dictated that
> > > those who are strongest survive?
>
The theory of Evolution is only a theory in bio-genesis, it does not
dictates anything.
> Popular Darwinism reduces to a tautology - "Survival of the fittest"
> means "Survival of the survivors".
>
> Euan Mason wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure where your comment was aimed, but I shall comment on the
> > sentiment above.  It is true that evolution, a mindless mechanism, has
> > produced a wonderful variety of species and ecosystems.
>
I doubt anything mindless can produce or create order and diversity such
as the eco-system or animal kingdom. It is easier for a Intel 486 chip to
evolve into a Pentium chip - one may rationalise mathematically.
> In what sense has a "mindless mechanism"
produced a "a
wonderful > variety of species"?   The "species" may, arguably, exist
> independently of mind (whether of God or man) but can the "wonder"
> exist in a state of mindlessness?
>
> Am I correct in suggesting that at the root of the debate is the
> notion of what constitutes "value" (in its broadest sense, not
> limited to its narrow meaning in economics or mathematics)?   ie from
> where do those things which we call "human values" originate?   what
> is their reality?  and how do they connect or relate to other values
> such as "environmental values"?   The questions are rhetorical
> because I do not propose to offer the simplistic answer "from God" or
> "from the human mind".    But suppose that there is such a thing as a
> phenomenology of ideas; and then consider what we know or can know
> about the ideas "mind" and "God".    That consideration will lead
> to answers on why some of us poor confused beings run counter to the
> "laws of evolution" and seek to preserve the world of nature into
> which we were born, rather than accept the logic of "dominant
> forces".
>
> Geoff Fischer
> Forest Hand II
> Forestry Tutor
>
> The views expressed are not necessarily those of Waiariki Polytechnic
>
nelson wong

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• From: Geoff Fischer <FISCHERG@FEC.WAIARIKI.AC.NZ>

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