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Railroad ties and wooden pallets



Dear Garland:

Thanks for your comments about using wood products.  With regards to using
concrete cross ties (sleepers), Georg Kenk told me that in Germany, concrete
ties last about 30 to 50 years (about the same as treated pine or beech ties). 
However, he said treated oak can last 100 years.  We know that treated
wooden bridges will last longer than concrete bridges (but we have a
difficult time getting building codes to be changed due to the big concrete
industry).


It seems to me that recycling rates of wooden pallets must vary greatly by
region.  Wooden pallets are recycled in Arkansas and Alabama.  In these
"poor" states, we place a value on such items (which cost about $7 new;
$3.50 for seconds).  I went to WallMart and Lowe's yesterday and most of the
pallets had been reused.  In fact, some appeared to be rebuilt.  Of the 50
or so pallets at Lowe's, I saw three new pallets.  Here in Auburn, pallets
in poor condition are sold for $1.50 and some people split them up to be
used as firewood.   


Apparently in California, only 1 or 2 pallets out of 5 are recycled.  I
understand that most wood pallets there are used once and then put in a
landfill (which seems like a waste to us here in the South; at least they
should be burned for energy).  No wonder some are so concerned about the
need to recycle.  If people in California cut their use of wood and paper in
half, would their per capita consumption then equal ours here in the South?
Perhaps we should propose a California proposition to cease the importation
of wood and paper products into California.  This would force them to
recycle, and as a result, value wood pallets more.  They apparently are so
affluent that they are willing to trash pallets worth at least $3.50 (as
seconds).







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